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What Bike Can I Ride? License & Test Information For Beginners

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 10:35 AM

OK... topic after topic on this subject pops up ALL the time so hopefully this will inform a few and can be stickied!

GETTING STARTED

Age 16 and above... To even think about riding you have to have done a CBT unless you are super old and have moped entitlement with your car license.

-A CBT is only Valid for 2 years before having to be renewed.
-Costs of CBT vary between £80 and £130 for a day course (its unusual to fail in that day)
-It is NOT a test, is very simple instruction with some off road and road riding, to ensure you can control a bike.
-If you are 16 you will perform CBT on an automatic moped, over 16 and it will be a 125 geared bike like a cg - The CBT DOES NOT allow you to ride a bike upto 33BHP (ie restricted 600). I dont care what your mate in tesco car park said!
-You can do the CBT on your own bike but will need someone to take it to the CBT test centre, it has to be insured, MOT and taxed
-From other people stay clear of council run centres

At 16, you can ride a 50cc moped (YES even a geared 50cc is a moped)

At 17, You can ride a 125cc motorbike ... ONLY a 125cc bike (or less)... NO YOU CANNOT RESTRICT A 400CC AND RIDE IT ON 'L' PLATES.

Both the above can be rode with just the CBT but you Have to be displaying 'L' Plates, you cannot carry pillions AND stay off the motorways!

FULL LICENSE A2 17-20

Between 17 and 21 you could do your full A2 bike test. You CANNOT do the full unrestricted test between these ages.

-This is the restricted license, meaning you have to do the actual riding side on a bike between 100cc and 125cc.
-You NEED to complete, the CBT, Theory, Offroad Test and a final Onroad Test.
-Courses can be booked with suitable instruction and cost between £300-£600 to do the lot. These are normally around 3 days training.
-This can be a lot cheaper if you choose to do it all yourself and book theory and the 2 part test online without training, IT CAN BE DONE for around £150 (not including CBT) THIS WILL BE WITH YOUR OWN BIKE, ensure its fully road legal
-If you pass you can ride ANY bike you want as long as its power DOES NOT exceed 33BHP. This could be a derestricted RS125 or a restricted suzuki hayabusa.
-The bike can be restricted in any way you want/can find. It DOES NOT have to be done by FI International and you DO NOT have to have paperwork (its NOT a legal requirement).
-Nearly ANY bike can be restricted, but the bigger the bike the worse it willl be under restrictors
-If you choose to ride without restrictors (for bikes above 33BHP) then you are breaking the law, you make your own choices.
-The A2 gives you the same road access as an unrestricted license, therefore you can carry pillions AND ride motorways.
-The restriction period is 2 YEARS, Therefore if you pass at 17 you WILL be fully unrestricted at 19, You can send your license to DVLA to have the entitlement updated but do take a photocopy first as they will probably just lose your license altogether.
-If you pass this at 20 you can choose to do DAS (FULL UNRESTRICTED) at 21 to remove your restriction early. This involves doing everything again (Except CBT and Theory) but on a bike exceeding 500cc.

FULL LICENSE OVER 21

Over 21 you have 2 choices A2 restricted or A (DAS) licenses.

-If you choose to do the test on a 125cc bike you will be restricted to 33BHP for 2 years (see full license A2 above and nothing below applies except perhaps pricing)
-For full A license ALL the tests are the same as for restricted license above but are carried out on a bike OVER 500cc.
-Being over 21 DOES NOT mean you can ride anything over 125cc with L plates (Unless you have an instructor with you)
-Prices vary between £300-£600 for a 2-3 day course.
-Once passed get whatever bike you can afford.. there is no restriction at all



Just to add Isle of man is different, although no one lives there except freddy i will add you can do your DAS at 16... I will add other locations at a later date.. perhaps a full list of licenses for australia as we have a member or 2.

'credit goes to jedi for the following information'

Mod 1 is slow speed maneuvers, emergency stop and swerve stop. Mod 2 is road riding.

Firstly, here's the test layout for module 1...

http://www.camrider.com/assets/img/new2008test/rightcir.jpg

Before the test, make sure you have all of the following documents -driving licence (both parts), theory pass certificate, DL199 (CBT certificate), booking confirmation email. If you don't have all of those, don't bother going. Also make sure you have the right gear - legally all you need is a helmet but show that you take your safety seriously by wearing a leather or textile jacket, textile or leather trousers, boots, gloves, and a hi-viz vest. Got all that? Off you go then.

Park up in the test centre car park bays, make sure you've got your L plates fitted! Walk round the bike to make sure it's all roadworthy and ready to ride, full tank of gas etc. Go into the test centre and wait in the waiting area, no need to let them know you're there as they will come out at your allocated time and expect to see you there. You have FIVE MINUTES leeway - if you're later than that then no test and no refund either.

The examiner will take you into the briefing room and check out all your documents, they keep them with them while you're on your test. You'll then be told the order of the day. At all times they tell you exactly what you need to do next so just follow instructions and you'll be laughing. Put your helmet on and walk with the examiner outside to your bike.

The examiner will note down a few bike details while you get ready, they will then ask you to ride through the gates onto the manoeuvres pad and park the bike at one end. From the very moment you are sat on your bike you are being observed and evaluated, so do your shoulder checks and observations throughout all manoeuvres and even when riding onto and off the pad.

Once the gates are shut, they will ask you to ride your bike to one end of the pad and park it between four green cones. You will then get off your bike and put it on its stand - sidestand is fine, no need to use the centrestand if your bike has one. The first manoeuvre is to wheel your bike backwards under control in a 180° arc so that it ends up between an adjacent set of four green cones facing onto the pad.

Once that's done, you then have the first set of riding manoeuvres to do which is the slalom and figure of eight. Slalom around the five yellow cones and go immediately into three sets of figure of eight around two blue cones - you're alowed to pass beyond the last yellow cone. Once that's done, stop the bike.

Now you do your controlled stop - ride around the circuit and pass through the speed trap at a minimum speed of 50kmh (31.5mph), swerve between two red cones and then brake to a stop with your front wheel in a box of four blue cones. Forget all the horror stories you've heard - this is easy. The only way you'll crash is if you try to swerve and brake at the same time, which is a retards trick. Swerve, straighten up, THEN brake. if you didn't hit the required speed, you'll be given another go. Remember speedos tend to over-read, so try to hit over and indicated 35mph through the trap. Pinning it in 2nd will do nicely.

After this, you're turning the bike around on the U turn. You have 7.5 metres to do this, which is LOADS.

Next up, slow riding. Ride your bike slowly behind the examiners clipboard for a few metres.

Final manoeuvre now and it's the emergency stop. Round the circuit, pin it through the speed trap at a minimum speed of 50kmh (31.5mph) and hit the brakes when the examiner throws their arms up.

If you failed to hit the minimum speed for either or both of the speed trap bits then you'll be given a chance to do them both once more.

Otherwise, gates open and go park your bike up - do the observations!!!

Walk with the examiner to the briefing room where you'll take off your lid, and the examiner will firstly give you general comments on your riding, show you the score sheet, and then let you know if you've passed or failed. After that you get all your paperwork back plus your Module One pass certificate if you passed, which you will need to take with you when you take your Module Two test.

Module two... Before the test, make sure you have all of the following documents - driving licence (both parts), theory pass certificate, Module One pass certificate, DL199 (CBT certificate), booking confirmation email. If you don't have all of those, don't bother going. Also make sure you have the right gear - legally all you need is a helmet but show that you take your safety seriously by wearing a leather or textile jacket, textile or leather trousers, boots, gloves, and a hi-viz vest. Got all that? Off you go then.

Park up in the test centre car park bays, make sure you've got your L plates fitted! Walk round the bike to make sure it's all roadworthy and ready to ride, full tank of gas etc. Go into the test centre and wait in the waiting area, no need to let them know you're there as they will come out at your allocated time and expect to see you there. You have FIVE MINUTES leeway - if you're later than that then no test and no refund either.

The examiner will take you into the radio room and check out all your documents, they keep them with them while you're on your test. You'll then be told the order of the day and how long you can expect to be out on the road. At all times they tell you exactly what you need to do next so just follow instructions and you'll be laughing. You'll then have a radio strapped to you and an earpiece hooked to your ear, and then you put your helmet on and walk with the examiner outside to your bike.

First thing when outside is you'll be asked to read the numberplate of a car approximately 20 metres away. Then you'll be asked two safety questions - one "show me" and one "tell me". For example, mine were "show me how to test the horn" (ignition on, press horn button) and "tell me how you check the oil on this bike" (point to dipstick, tell them oil level must be between min and max marks). Then you'll be asked about carrying a pillion - mine was "tell me how you'd carry a pillion" (pegs down, check and adjust tyre pressures, suspension preload, mirrors and headlamp aim) but they may ask "how does carrying a pillion affect the bike?" so adjust the answer accordingly.

Once that's done, you'll be asked to get your bike ready to ride while the examiner goes and gets their bike. They'll also do a radio check to make sure you can hear them clearly.

Now you're off for a ride! The examiner gives you clear instructions and repeats them, for example "at the roundabout I'd like you to turn right by taking the fourth exit, that's right at the roundabout fourth exit" etc. If at any point you can't hear them then pull up safely by the side of the road and they will check it out.

You'll be asked to pull over and stop somewhere safe (at least 10 metres away from a junction, not opposite a parked car, not on the brow of a hill or a sharp bend, not on zigzags - but single / double yellows are okay as you're only stopping not parking) and pull away again, to do the same but from behind a parked car (and you can't cheat by leaving a huge gap - they WILL tell you to move closer!) but other than that just ride normally. Do your observations, plan ahead, read the road and obey the road signs.

If you leave your examiner behind just keep on riding, the radios have a fantastic range and if the examiner needs you to pull over and wait then they'll tell you to do so.

You can expect all kinds of roads, there will be rural lanes, housing estates, A and B roads, dual carriageways, anything from 20mph to 70mph. Make good progress, overtake when it's safe to do so without speeding, and generally use your best judgement - don't try and guess what the examiner wants you to do, just do what you think is the right thing to do in the circumstances. Keep left unless overtaking, going round speed bumps is okay as long as you don't cross into the other lane and there's no traffic coming, and move your head like you're an owl at a rave.

After half an hour or so you'll be back in the car park and you'll walk with the examiner to the briefing room, where you'll take off your lid, hand back the radio, and the examiner will firstly give you general comments on your riding, show you the score sheet, and then let you know if you've passed or failed. After that you get all your paperwork back plus your pass certificate if you passed, they will offer to send your licence off for you or you can do it yourself (free postage if they do it!) and then you're on your way.

This post has been edited by collywog19: 13 February 2012 - 10:31 PM


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