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Really Possible ? 43 Hp

#1 User is offline   pego30 

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:14 PM

just been trawling the net for rs power figures

found this

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae11/pego31/39vshonda.jpg



Okay so what we see here is the 125cctuning.com's highest Aprilia RS125 Power figure,

The bike featured:
Full Gianelli System
34mm Carb bored out to 39mm
VForce Reeds
STANDARD ENGINE INTERNALS with 125cctuning.com tune
PVL Ignition
Lightened Flywheel

43.41Bhp!!!!!!!

.... Just to put things into perspective also on the graph there is a dyno run shown for a stock Honda Rs125Gp! Although it didnt have the midrange it had more peak power than a £14,000 Gp bike!!!


is this really possible ??a true 43 hp at the wheel ??? im sceptical :frantics:

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:17 PM

anything is mate, just would need rebuilding every 10 miles lol.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:19 PM

id say no but with a lightened flywheel and decent ignition system will definitely help

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:20 PM

i think its possible, but the stresses on the internals of that engine are going to be immense so, with standard internals it would probably explode before reaching the end of a race! Also the power band on it will be completely unusable. Although on paper it has more power in reality it would probably be very slow on anything but an arrow straight road, due to the miniscule power band, and even then you would have to change gears so fast that it would probably work out slower than the GP bike.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:23 PM

View Postchubbosaurus, on 01 October 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

id say no but with a lightened flywheel and decent ignition system will definitely help



im with you i think the dynos tellin porkies

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:28 PM

im confused to why they have plotted speed against hp, usually its hp against rpm is it not? definate porkies, or they've tried to make a 250 better, but really made it worse claiming it was the 125 http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:29 PM

end of day the more houses the 125 cc is making the less life span the standard parts will see. so 42 bhp is imence but for 10 laps only, if you get me. boom http://www.mitoclub.com/forum/style_emoticons/mitoclub_emoticons/nos4zx.gif

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:31 PM

View Postchubbosaurus, on 01 October 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

im confused to why they have plotted speed against hp, usually its hp against rpm is it not? definate porkies, or they've tried to make a 250 better, but really made it worse claiming it was the 125 http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

lol is it bad i hadn't actually noticed that. in that case it sort of proves the point although its HP figure is much higher its top speed is the same as a restricted bike! just goes to shop HP isn't everything ;]

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:34 PM

this one made me lol 30 hp from an arrow exhaust only on a stock bike PMSL :rolleyes:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae11/pego31/4dynographs.jpg



The RED line is a standard Aprilia Rs125 fitted with a full Arrows System only, nothing else.

30.27Bhp



The BLUE line is a 125cctuning.com full Superteens spec tune, this means:
Standard 28mm Carb
Standard Airbox
ALL original engine parts
Standard CDI
Standard plastic reeds
Full Arrows System

37.95Bhp!!!

The GREEN line is a full 125cctuning.com tune, no fancy parts EXCEPT:
30mm Dellorto Carb
Gianelli Full System.
What have we got??
40.65Bhp!!!

The PURPLE line is a full 125cctuning.com tune with:
34mm Carb
VForce 3
Lightened flywheel
PVL Ignition
Gianelli Full System
Standard Aprilia engine internals.

42.56Bhp!!!!!!!!

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:39 PM

it is funny coz mine dyno ran a mph reading rather than a rev limit and only went to 65 mph............... seeing 24bhp

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:40 PM

bull.sh*t.http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:43 PM

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy161/lizard821000/SCAN0005.jpg

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:46 PM

luvvin the air fuel lizzy :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:47 PM

lol, yet to see one from you....http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:49 PM

View Postlizard821000, on 01 October 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:

lol, yet to see one from you....http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png





your doesnt look that bad tbh if it was a 4 T id say room for improvement like
but with it bein a 2 T its impossible to tell

the dyno dude wont let me get an air fuel read as ittl clog up his air fuel meter lul its a spankin new dyno

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:55 PM

same as that really, the guy didnt want to to read it as it would have cloged his sh*t up, plus A/F reeading on 2t are sh*t at best anyways .plus a new motor so didnt push it over 70mph or 9000 rpm. shame it never saw a more powerfully rpm mate. didnt want to risk it. id of thought it would hve seen 25ish 27 at a push with run in motor and not so rich jetting. do s for road use. http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png and thats no mods, just a giannelli silencer.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:57 PM

View Postlizard821000, on 01 October 2011 - 11:55 PM, said:

same as that really, the guy didnt want to to read it as it would have cloged his sh*t up, plus A/F reeading on 2t are sh*t at best anyways .plus a new motor so didnt push it over 70mph or 9000 rpm. shame it never saw a more powerfully rpm mate. didnt want to risk it. id of thought it would hve seen 25ish 27 at a push with run in motor and not so rich jetting. do s for road use. http://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png and thats no mods, just a giannelli silencer.



winn :thumbsup:

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:01 AM

might get it done again befor sale mate. spec when i see all these 33bhp full power slogins on bike adverts latly, makes me mad lol

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:04 AM

View Postlizard821000, on 02 October 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

might get it done again befor sale mate. spec when i see all these 33bhp full power slogins on bike adverts latly, makes me mad lol



hahhaah this chasin hp lark becomes addictive mate !!!

spesh when my dyno runs are off a mate :thumbsup:
ill give in when i see 35 -36 hp :frantics:

its interesting tho learning what actually makes an increase and what dosnt as theres so much bullsh*t around

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:08 AM

id cut while i was ahead mate, if i remember right dont you have a lighter flywheel and strongeer race crank fitted ....... if you pumping out 33 bhp at wheel thats an easy 35-36 at crank..... mega power for a 125cc. i reckon it would see more but service intervals would be ten a penny. i love your chase though, fking wish youd buy a mito to play with........ your a fkin good man for cranking up the chace of the 125 bhp. if only you could get some sort of sponcership....... would yeld good results i reckon steve.

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