[stinky]

Hi guys,

ok, here's whats happened.

selling my bike soon so decided to give it a good clean and take some pics of it. avoided all the usual 'problem places' with the water ie fuel cap and spark plug.

started it up to check all was working and it struggled to start. i eventually got it started and it ran fine with no problems. turned it off and tried to restart, again wouldnt start. doesnt seem to be spark plug and i drained the carb to be sure so its not water in fuel.

my thoughts are turning to water on some electrics, as i must admit i wasnt overly cautious when cleaning near these bits. any idea where the electrics are located for starting the bike, is it the black box (cdi unit??) under tank? can i just dry it out you think?

any help much appreciated (apart from buy an rs or mito)

ps....anyone wanna buy a bike

 

[stinky]

just to add, i popped home at lunch and tried it again, still no luck but i did notice a slight popping noise from the exhaust when trying to start.

any ideas?

 

[K3Z]

Did you take the tank off? , can't remember were the CDI is was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago when i had the XTC apart. Check for nipped fuel lines etc, is it bumping ?

 

[stinky]

took tank off and charged battery, checked spark plug, drained carb. checked all electrical wiring to see if something had come loose but everything is working as it should, it just wont start. Friend seems to think its electrical as it happend after i washed it, so water has got into something.

how do i bump start? never done it before.

cheers K3Z

 

[K3Z]

Well the XTC is a c*nt to bump if your short, but if you can get a friend to push you while your on it, throw it into 1st and try to start it with a rolling start, pretty hard to do if your a novice, i am sure some of the lads on here would be more help.

When you try to start it does it just flood ? what sounds is it making, loud ticking ? etc.

 

[stinky]

nope no ticking, basically just sounds as if its trying to start but wont. checked all the usual things with no joy!

will try a bump start tonight, got a mate who can help us out with it.

 

[K3Z]

check your fuses, maybe the stater selonoid ? or motor, your plug sparking ??

Only basics sorry. Not exactly mecanical genious only know the basics.

 

[Big-T]

easiest way i've found to bump start is to have the bike in second gear and have the clutch lever squeezed, ignition on, get rolling then let out the clutch, with a little bit of acelerator the bike should fire up, may be a good idea to have the choke open aswell, i reckon on second gear as there will be less chance of the rear wheel just locking up

good luck dude,

( oh yeah, thanks for the help about my bike, just needed petrol....didn't realise i had to fill it up more than once! seemed to never run out )

 

[stinky]

ok will try it, its not gonna leap forward is it? just a little worried as have never done it before.

where is the solenoid located?

 

[Big-T]

dunno where the solonoid is located, and the bike shouldn't leap forward if it's in second gear as it will have less torque, if it feels like it will then just squeeze the clutch again, and you'll be ok

remember, only use a little revs as you may go bollocking off down the road : )

 

[stinky]

ok will let you know how i get on.....if i dont post then the worst has happened

 

[Big-T]

good luck dude

 

[K3Z]

Totalled it then ?

Selonoid is under the seat opposite the sidestand side

so its right side

 

[stinky]

i'm alive, didnt actually attempt the bump start cos it was raining (no balls i know)

what i have noticed is the headlights arent on, but all other lights are working. i've checked the fuses, everything seems ok.

gonna look at it tomorrow (beer has priority tonight), will check solonoid, anything else i need to look at, cant beleive a bit of water from cleaning it has done this!!!

 

[sameshoz]

Are you getting a spark?

 

[Mito Revolution]

fuel, compression, spark = start.

 

[paddysachs]

dry the coil when it gets wet on the xtc there is no chance of it going

what i did was wrap it in plastic (a plastic bag will do) but still make sure the contacts make contact with the frame otherwise the coil wont sent a spark to the plug.

after i did this my bike never stops in the rain or wen i wash it this is a problem with the xtc

 

[sameshoz]

Sachs dodgy electrics

 

[Mito Revolution]

lol, its not just the electrics that are dodgy on a sachs bike.

 

[TGR]

lol, its not just the electrics that are dodgy on a sachs bike.

Yea there also dodgy on the mito