[MarcoXTC]

Hello everyone.

I am 18 years old and have never been on a motorcycle. I am about to purchase a brand new Sachs XTC, i went to the showroom but it seems really big and i am wondering if this is a good learner?? I am 5,11, 11 stone. I buy it on thursday unless convinced otherwise i hope i have made right choice in the sachs rather than the aprilia! Im looking for reliability over speed, as it is my first bike and i am not a lunatic young lad doing 70 in the 30 limit area. Also im wondering about insurance, one year no claims from moped. and gernerally how long it takes to learn how to ride a bike and how difficult!?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Marco

 

[drextc]

I wouldn't be that confident with the Hyosung GT125r, yeah it looks great but at that weight and with a v-twin engine something has to give. A guy not to fair from me part exchanged his with only 600 miles on the clock. Which ever one you do decide to purchase, good luck and ride safe.

 

[paulj]

sachs is good

GT125R is better

Oh...my...god!!!!

I never thought I'd see or hear you say such a thing, Dan.

@ Marco - I have owned both the Aprilia RS and the Sachs XTC. Now I don't want to set off an arguement over this one's better than this one etc etc, so I will state this:

THESE ARE MY OPINIONS AND MY OPINIONS ONLY

Aprilia RS - This was my first bike. Absolutely loved it when I got it. Loved the speed and it felt so nimble. Started having a few problems with it , you could say because I never gave it the mechanical attention that it needed. Travelling the distance to get to work gave me no time really, so yeah, it got neglected.

Sachs XTC - Bought one of these and never really had many issues with it. Only main issue was the front brake disc had warped. Never had any big problems with it.

As you've said yourself, you want reliability. In my experiance with the bikes, reliability will cost you less with the Sachs

Paul

 

[MarcoXTC]

I never did quite understand why my mates who own 125's laugh about my BUYING! of my new XTC. They go on about speed - but my route to work is not a bleody race track! I cant see them doing a ton In the morning rush hour! or evening for that matter. I think it sounds quite beefy, looks the business and is apprently reliable - so very happy wiht me purchase! - Altho the new RS does look like something special. ALTHO...

Apprently wihtin the next couple of years manufacturers wont be able to make any 2 stroke 125's owing to exhaust emissions? onli 4 stroke? Or was the salesman trying to put me off the shiny new aprilia opposite (altho the extra 800 quid did that job already)

Final point if people think aprilias are better do they think they are 800 quid better than a sachs?

Look forward to getting my brand new red sachs otr

 

[sameshoz]

Final point if people think aprilias are better do they think they are 800 quid better than a sachs?

I'd say much more than ?800. Not trying to start an argument, but the build quality on the two bikes are in completely different leagues, its also worth noting the number of topics in the XTC forum, which owes itself to not being all that reliable as it is made out.

 

[sameshoz]

Ive seen and sat on enough to be able to tell the difference. New RS to New XTC the 800 quid difference is very apparent.

 

[TGR]

@ MarcoXTC

Final point if people think aprilias are better do they think they are 800 quid better than a sachs?

It's all to do with personal taste, I own a Mito (Old Painful) and a XTC and so far the XTC has been alot better bike than the Mito (This is simply down to the last owner of the mito, who didnt look after the bike atall and I've had to rebuild the bike from scratch and its still a wip) hence buying the sachs to get me around while I finish off the Mito.

I've not really had any problems with the sachs, it starts,stops and gets to from A to B and back to A without any problems. granted you wont be setting any speed records! But you didnt buy the sach for speed

and as wannamodaxtc said

A bike is only as good as its owner

Aslong as your happy enough with the bike, thats all that matters. Your always gonna get people that say I dont like this,I dont like that, this is better, thats rubbish and so on! But if your happy then who cares what other people think.

well thats my two penny's

 

[stinky]

hi mate, only been biking since september and got to admit sitting on the sachs for the first time i was a little aprrehensive cos of the size etc but trust me it feels so small now and after a month or so you will be confident and just wanting bigger and better.

had some minor niggles with mine but all have been small problems like spark plugs, wheel bearings, all easy to fix, was just my lack of knowledge really.

not riden any other bikes but just thought the aprilia was small so that put me off. my xtc is fast enough up to about 50 (which is great for my route to work, leaves all the cars standing at the lights) but is not great after that, and you wont get it past 80, except on downhills lol.

so as a first bike i would definately recommend it, i love it! selling mine this summer though as gonna take my full test.

good luck with whatever you get and ride safe!

 

[crazywayne]

what r u all on about the xtc is a pile of sh*t i had a hyosung cruse 2 that could woop its ass all day long. go get yourself a hyosung gt 125 thay have better power dilivery then the xtc and will not brake down on ya

 

[Rs06 Ant]

Dont often agree with Dan

But the gt125 is what you want. I was temted to but the comet 125 instead of my cbr but the hyosung name put me off. What a big mistake that was as i was left will a pile of sh*t they call the cbr.

 

[paddysachs]

what r u all on about the xtc is a pile of sh*t i had a hyosung cruse 2 that could woop its ass all day long. go get yourself a hyosung gt 125 thay have better power dilivery then the xtc and will not brake down on ya

the hyosung has the same engine as the sachs so how are you woopin its ass then?

 

[stinky]

could someone post a pic of the Hyosung, i've not seen one and interested in what your all talking about.

as for what bike to get, i'd recommend going to a bike shop and atleast sitting on them all (if not a test ride) and see which one grabs you.

i'll have a yellow xtc 4stroke 2003 for sale in a few months time if your still interested in the xtc then!

 

[simjea]

my advice marco, whatever you decide to get (rs125 in my book lol) dont get a brand new one, because you 'will' drop it at some point, get something a couple of years old thats been well looked after and spend 12 months getting used to riding in all conditions/road surfaces.

 

[simjea]

cheers bud!

just sems like everyone in this post has skipped the fact the guy is new to riding a bike and could do with hints and tips on that before we get into the same old debate about what bike to get.

Im only sayin it from experience, bought my extrema in Aug 06, rode for about 6 weeks, loved it that much bought a brand new 06 RS, and then had a stupid really unlucky drop in december and havent been able to ride (or even walk) since.

 

[paddysachs]

@ MarcoXTC
It's all to do with personal taste, I own a Mito (Old Painful) and a XTC and so far the XTC has been alot better bike than the Mito (This is simply down to the last owner of the mito, who didnt look after the bike atall and I've had to rebuild the bike from scratch and its still a wip) hence buying the sachs to get me around while I finish off the Mito.

I've not really had any problems with the sachs, it starts,stops and gets to from A to B and back to A without any problems. granted you wont be setting any speed records! But you didnt buy the sach for speed

and as wannamodaxtc said

Aslong as your happy enough with the bike, thats all that matters. Your always gonna get people that say I dont like this,I dont like that, this is better, thats rubbish and so on! But if your happy then who cares what other people think.

well thats my two penny's

iv built a mito evo from scratch so if you have any questions

 

[mivster]

just got rid of my aprilia rs125 and test rode a few bikes
hyosung gtr125 big burly and looks nice
as for a hyosung cruise 2 they are total dogsh*t wouildnt have one thrown at me
needed something tall so got a sach xtc which in a decent bike
got a full suzuki gsx engine in as standard
not like the hyosung which use a few bits from a suzuki engine
so its got the reliability hyosung dont offer
dont get me wrong the gtr is a awesome bike and i would of bought it if i would have had enough

 

[Richard-XTC]

FFS, don't buy one brand new. Get any 125, get a bit of experience (even if it's for a few months). Then, if you still have to have one brand new, buy one. If I was in your position, I would buy a low mileage XTC and save myself half of the money.

Insurance should be fairly low. When I was 19 it was £400 on TPFT

And the engine is actually a sleeved down FXR 150 engine, thank you

 

[tzrman1984]

persoanlly id say f*ck the sachs buy a cg 125 great little bikes to learn on can drop it with out worrying about smasshing fairings etc parts are pletyfull on ebay and 9/10 you can make back what you paid for them , learn till youre confident then look into doing your test and having a endless choice of rides !

 

[dale finney]

cagiva mito aprilia rs 125 honda nsr 125 all better bets i wudnt touch a sachs with a pooey stick

 

[dale finney]

cagiva mito aprilia rs 125 honda nsr 125 all better bets i wudnt touch a sachs with a pooey stick

and to add if ur new to riding and afraid of falling off id go for a honda cbr 125 mcn rate it does about 75 mph and parts are fairly cheap and there easy to maintain