[richardbolton]

Hi guys, i will soon be tuning 17 and i untill about 2 day agi i was set on either a mito or an rs...then i saw the sahcs xtc. it is apparently a lot more reliable bike than the other two and that would be a very big factor in my decision....what are the other benefits? any downsides?

Cheers

Rich

ps is there much difference between the 2 and 4 stroke ones???
how much do they need to be maintained...what is the likely hood of them breaking down?

 

[Jonny]

what do you mean by "reliable"?

the engine on the sachs has larger service intervals but the rest of it is sh*te and will rust and fall to bits much faster than rs125's

 

[Ride4life]

not true.. Had one, never rusted. was kept in the rain most of the time it wasnt covered up and it never rusted. but if you want speed go for a 2t, If you want something cheaper to run get a 4t. there are 3 main 4t sports models available, the CBR125, Hyosung GT125r and the XTC.. I'd get the hyosung cos it looks the muts nuts.

as for reliability, the bike will only be as reliable as its keepers maintenance checks.

 

[richardbolton]

meaning how often do the pistons haveto be changed...hoylikely isiit to break down eg. how much would i be likely to spend on maintenance every 6 months (if thrashing it)? also what is the 0-60 like??

Cheers

 

[sameshoz]

meaning how often do the pistons haveto be changed...hoylikely isiit to break down eg. how much would i be likely to spend on maintenance every 6 months (if thrashing it)? also what is the 0-60 like??

Cheers

0-60 will be pathetic. Like 12 seconds.

 

[Ride4life]

speed is not a selling point for this bike. having owned one I can vouch for a top and of 85 with a very long run up and a well maintained example of the bike. otherwise the cheeky side of 70 is your best friend.

as for piston mine was 3 when i parked it in the side of a moving car and the engine still starts and runs. keep the services to a minimum of every 6 months or 7k miles cos the valves have to be checked and the cam chain can be a bugger if it starts jumping.

 

[stinky]

ok i have had a sachs xtc for almost a year now, and unless mine is a totally different bike to everyone elses, heres the facts.

Top speed - 85 ish on a flat
0 to 60 - no where near 12 seconds (have you ever riden one sameshoz?) mines great up to 60, its after that it struggles.
reliability - doesnt like the rain, simple as that, otherwise i have had minor problems like spark plugs, carb cleaning etc, all easy to do.

hope this helps richard. some people tend to post in this forum simply to slag the xtc off, but go test ride a few and see what you think is my advice.

 

[K3Z]

lol ignore Sam he just getting his post count up, he has never owned a Sachs. The engine is really good if you keep it maintained, and keep OIL init! ..

My top speed was 85 didn't struggle till 80 but im really light so

. Mine didn't have any problems like the others with the rain, but i hear alot about water in the tank.

good luck on what ever you decide.

 

[Ride4life]

when he says really light he now carries bricks or his girlfriend on his GSXR to keep the wheel on the floor.

you love me really keiron. haha

sachs is a good bike and if i seen a cheap enough one near me i'd buy another.

 

[richardbolton]

Cheers guys thats really helpful. i was a bit surprised when he said it was 0 - 60 in around 12 seconds considering the power of the engine and my weight (just over 11 stone) but all i really need ot for is for local commuting to school and back...to workd adn 2 see friends. Just to check i will be able to burn people at the lights wont I?

Cheers

 

[luke17636]

i wouldnt say u would be able to burn people of but u should be able to keep up with the flow of trafic and maybe beat a 1 litre corsa of the lights . i was going to buy a sachs as i thought they were the best lookin 125 4 stroke but i only want a bike 4 sunny days and not traveling constantly everywere so i got a rs .

 

[Rs06 Ant]

lol ignore Sam he just getting his post count up, he has never owned a Sachs. The engine is really good if you keep it maintained, and keep OIL init! ..

My top speed was 85 didn't struggle till 80 but im really light so

. Mine didn't have any problems like the others with the rain, but i hear alot about water in the tank.

good luck on what ever you decide.

Rs would still loose it tho

PHAST AS f*ck INIT

Upto you really what version you want. IMO a 125 must be 2stroke.

 

[Ride4life]

In everyone else's a 125 is a 125 and is just an impliment to learn on, Gain experience and then leave behind. No more no less.

 

[stinky]

richard, you'll be fine at the lights, they are no slower than other 125's despite what people say. i use mine for work and the odd trip out.

No queuing in traffic, first off at the lights, doesnt sound like a chicken and also doesnt look like a childs bike. get one to learn on and then as ride4life says move up.

anyone ever timed the 0 - 60? i know its no where near 12 seconds....

 

[K3Z]

It's pretty quick up2 60 but then its urgh...well it's ok and does the job, nice commuting bike. Also a nice alternative to the skinny CBR125.

 

[paulj]

It's pretty quick up2 60 but then its urgh...well it's ok and does the job, nice commuting bike. Also a nice alternative to the skinny CBR125.

spot on

 

[Rs06 Ant]

In everyone else's a 125 is a 125 and is just an impliment to learn on, Gain experience and then leave behind. No more no less.

I think you will find thats just yours.

 

[Jonny]

lol i have seen many o rusty sachs, i would well avoid them, as for as fast as any other 125? wtf

a old yammy rsx100 will be faster lol

 

[richardbolton]

would you guys say that i should be looking for the 4t or 2t? the 2t is probably faster but more likely to break...am i right? what are the pros and cons of each?

Cheers

 

[Ride4life]

A 2t owner wont go for a 4t and someone who can look after a 4t wont go for 2t. I have had both and hate the 2t's just personal tho. I liked mine cos it was big enough and reliable enough.

Ant a 125 is a 125. its a small engined starter bike. its the bottom of the line bike that is only supposed to be a stepping stone or a cheap hack. they arent designed to last long anymore.

You may have a 400 but your still not able to ride it so you are on a 125, why cos its the biggest fastest bike you can ride atm legally. as soon as you pass you will be on your 400 so my point is made. if the 125 was more than a 125 you would keep it after passing and not need a bigger bike.