[N1ck]

when i pass my test (aint even started yet lol, gonna do around april time) im thinking of getting a SM down the line, prob get 1 round xmas time as at tht point il have most money, i was thinking between these bikes, does any1 know which is the better cheers....

crf 450 (sm)
drz 400 (sm)
and finaly
ktm 660 or maybe 640 im not sure lol

anyway if people could give me some advice on these or even any others would be greatly apreciated

 

[collywog19]

ccm 404 would be a better choice.

col

 

[N1ck]

ccm 404 would be a better choice.

col

iv looked at them a few times before, why would you reccomend 1 of them over the others?

 

[gen:ex]

good reliable engine, basically a tuned drz400 lump.

looks good aswell!! and are still a decnet supermoto!

 

[sameshoz]

SXV 450 obvy

 

[N1ck]

good reliable engine, basically a tuned drz400 lump.

looks good aswell!! and are still a decnet supermoto!

cool il take tht into consideration, so its a tuned drz engine sweet, sounds much better

and sameshoz i aint really impressed by the large aprilia sm's, not to my liking really from what pics iv seen, i challenge you to change my mind though

 

[gen:ex]

I wouldnt get the CCM, they fall in bits even worse than KTM's (and they are really bad). They are sh*t to get bits for (like ktm) and are worthless after a year. They are what you would call a pretend supermoto and they're really, really heavy under powered things. If you're wanting an excellent supermoto, go for the CRF450 2005 or later. Thats when the chassis changed and it turns in a lot better. They last a lot longer than the others brands by far, and parts (rarely needed) are next day. They are really easy to work on and the 450x model is just a detuned version with electric start that probably requires even less maintenance. If you decide the Honda is not the bike for you, I'd definately go for something japanese as the build quality is far better than european. Obviously this is only my oppinion, but I have ridden or owned all of them.

ive done a whole weekends riding with many CCMs and they are nothing like this atall!! Decent electrics and that, just not many people know of them.

the only downside is the backup for parts...

 

[N1ck]

ive done a whole weekends riding with many CCMs and they are nothing like this atall!! Decent electrics and that, just not many people know of them.

the only downside is the backup for parts...

Thats wht i was thinking, but then again, if CCM use suzkuki engines cant you order straight from them, they were the 2 main things i was worrying about the CCM, availibility of parts and how much they depreciate by

 

[karloscinquentos]

husky sm610 i love cols tis awesome

 

[Gate3.co.uk]

The parts are poor for them. Like I said, it depends how hard you ride them and what you expect do with them. It's a bit like comapring a yamaha 2007 YZ125 motocross bike to a DT125R that has barely changed since 1988. They're both good bikes, same engine size and look like off road bikes, but the dt would be lost in the real world of off road because they are totally different. It really is just my oppinion, but I just found them very sluggish and heavy compared to their rivals. My mate had 2 of them from new with suzuki engines (bought in a pair), and they always felt like they were missing. He sold them within a year and went back to road bikes. Have you ridden any other enduro/sm to compare to?

 

[N1ck]

The parts are poor for them. Like I said, it depends how hard you ride them and what you expect do with them. It's a bit like comapring a yamaha 2007 YZ125 motocross bike to a DT125R that has barely changed since 1988. They're both good bikes, same engine size and look like off road bikes, but the dt would be lost in the real world of off road because they are totally different. It really is just my oppinion, but I just found them very sluggish and heavy compared to their rivals. My mate had 2 of them from new with suzuki engines (bought in a pair), and they always felt like they were missing. He sold them within a year and went back to road bikes. Have you ridden any other enduro/sm to compare to?

wht bikes are you comparing, the drz and 404 lol?

 

[collywog19]

my mates ccm 404 is the dogs bollox i fooking love it.
faster than my husky

col

 

[N1ck]

my mates ccm 404 is the dogs bollox i fooking love it.
faster than my husky

col

there is a propa sweet 1 on ebay atm, if i was looking to buy 1 now, i would definatly be bidding on it, il try post link l8r as im on my cousins super laggy comp.

so col, you know the stats of a ccm, eg top speed, if there quick off the mark, how many gears it will wheelie in, you know the important stuff lol

 

[gen:ex]

n1ck get onto ccm owners club forums, you will get better assistance than what mxmayhem is giving

 

[sameshoz]

How is the SXV noticably bigger than its rivals?

How can you not like this -

 

[gen:ex]

he migt like it, but only comes with 2 month warranty!! and comes at 33bhp standard

if he crashes a ccm404 itll be cheaper oh and dude the 404 has ALl CRF plastics so you can buy crf sh*t for it aswell

 

[sameshoz]

he migt like it, but only comes with 2 month warranty!! and comes at 33bhp standard

Wait till Dizzy reads that LOL!"!!!!!

 

[gen:ex]

Wait till Dizzy reads that LOL!"!!!!!

it does come at around 33bhp maybe its 35bhp when you buy the bike brand new!!1

i know becuase i know more than 3 people in real life with the bike... Have to do a bit to get the power out!

 

[sameshoz]

You are wrong!!!

Your talking about the DRZ - that comes as standard with 33bhp.

The whole point with the SXV is that the motor is soooo good.

EDIT : Dizzy to the rescue.

 

[N1ck]

How is the SXV noticably bigger than its rivals?

How can you not like this -

tht bike is sex mad, but i still like the crf i posted more